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CharlieMiller |
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April 24, 2011 06:49:29pm |
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Re: Phish? |
I know Mike Gordon from having worked with him. I contacted him requesting permission to have audience recordings from his band (Mike Gordon Band) hosted on the Live Music Archive. He responded to me and CC'd someone who I assume is from his legal department asking them to handle it. We're still in process of getting things figured out.
I know it's not Phish, but it's help.
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MooseMan9 |
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April 27, 2011 01:00:07pm |
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Hey Charlie, if you know and have direct access to Mike & crew why not ask Kevin Shapiro? Ultimately, and quite literally the buck stops there right?
From my somewhat inside/outside perspective I'd gather the ultimate reason that Phish isn't a part of archive is because the bands management is deathly afraid of it cutting into the "official" Live Phish downloads and that revenue stream. Hogwash IMO. There's a place for both.
Strikes me as odd that a band who more or less built their entire career from touring and being filler on Dead tapes would turn their noses at what's more or less the modern version of "old school tape trading" but what do I know?!? Besides its not like there aren't dozens of other sites where audience tapes are widely available. What gives?
I guess that ultimately Carini was dead on... he usually was. But again, its not the band... they're all super cool cats. Its the folks behind the band...
If you want to follow up here drop me a line via email. We likely know some of the same people. It'd be interesting. mooseaudio@aim.com
Peace!
This post was modified by MooseMan9 on 2011-04-27 20:00:07
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 greenone |
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April 28, 2011 05:30:34am |
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Why not ask Kevin Shapiro? We have on a few occasions and the answer has been a polite but definite no.
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MooseMan9 |
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April 28, 2011 01:00:30pm |
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Well that's a bummer. As said its not like the audience recordings aren't already floating around the internet. For instance on nugs.net or via bittorrent which IMO is inherently evil and bad... not a very clean transfer method no matter how its sliced. Just two of the dozens of places I've seen shows. I wonder if anyone in their camp is aware of those facts? Why not embrace the good at archive? At least its clean here. No viruses or bad stuff.
Not like I have a dog in the fight either way... any Phish in my collection is either old cassette tapes (don't even have a deck anymore!) from way way back when or super hi-fi stuff gathered through official channels that I wouldn't put out anyway. Some material isn't for "trading" period.
I just know how much it means to a lot of people...
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MooseMan9 |
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April 28, 2011 02:52:35pm |
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FWIW my thoughts on Phish are the same as any other band that allows taping and sells "taper tickets" but won't be a part of archive... Mule for example. Seems hypocritical... doesn't compute.
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megalomani |
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April 13, 2012 07:09:49pm |
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There actually has been post by the band regarding this decision and it seems reasonable. By allowing their recordings on the archive it becomes public domain. This means the band looses ownership of their own work. Currently they allow taping and transfer of the recordings person-to-person but not on a centralized 3rd party forum.
While I appreciate the archive and ease of access to live recordings these days, I do miss the personal connections that came with trading tapes. Much of the community has been lost in this sense by digitization.
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